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  • Threads. 13. Besides eating up a lot of ammo, it takes time to gather impact data in this manner. That being said, the results I had with Hornady ELD M bullets + Hornady 4 DOF calculators were excellent to the degree were no "ballistic truing" was required. This all-in-one compact tool combines onsite environmental measurements with a powerful G1/G7 Jan 20, 2020 · Ballistic Calculators & Field Results. The Sig Kilo 10k Solution -truing the ballistic solver. Getting accurate elevation holds for long-range shooting is important. Feb 27, 2015 · In this video I discuss how to apply your ballistics Program to your rifle and your shots. However there is a good rule to use when doing a ballistic calibration. Leave some comments. To provide enough head height for extreme long-range bullets, Hornady’s design gurus made the . After 600 go to 800 plus and true BC. 2 range provides the most significant data. Live View of PMR HUD Real Time updates of PMR Smart Scope Heads Up Display (HUD). We first established the data at 100 yards (our zeroing distance). 12. Mobile App is the 3 modes of Ballistic Calibration. Hornady currently has these 3. 2 mils of elevation were needed to reach our 400 yd target. Kestrel 5700 Elite Weather Meter with Applied Ballistics and LiNK. Actual Testing and Truing. 476,406. youtub Feb 11, 2019 · Instructions on how to true your ballistic calculator to your rifle and information on how to determine what is causing errors in data. Instead of hoping the prediction works, truing perfectly matches the flight path. We want to help make truing your data easier. Sep 21, 2018 · Horus is here to answer all your long range shooting questions. GeoBallistics® has 4 modes: HUD, Chart, Map, and Comp. Mar 12, 2018 · Ballistic Calculators & Field Results. Which seems more like what I should be seeing I think. I am not convinced at all that the BC printed on the box of ammo or the manufactures data sheet is accurate at for 22LR. Live ballistic calculation updates of Elevation and Windage based on Azimuth Overview for truing your ballistic coefficient to make hits at 200 to 300 yards with your 22lr. com land I need, or at least want, some ballistic coefficient info. Our tests indicate that the G7 drag function TOF trued at approximate Mach 1. We read every day onSniper’s Hideabout shooters who have issues aligning their software to their real-world data. 308 rifles at that distance without very much heartburn. Errors in ballistic software. The journey is fun a s can be frustrating You may need to even build 2 profiles for the same gun and load out past 1200 to 1400 and ELR Mar 17, 2023 · After truing the ballistic data, I found it to be very suitable for long-range hunting, and the ability to update things like density altitude (DA) and actual muzzle velocities are key to shooting Sep 17, 2020 · Relative to the question about a device "storing truing" when using varying ammunition in the same rifle, every rifle/ammunition combination is different, even different lots of the same ammunition can have differences that are significant enough to throw the "truing" off, so for the best results with ballistics calculations (especially at Oct 29, 2019 · Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Aug 13, 2021 · When truing you true velocity out to 600 yards to get it lined up. Shooters place various degrees of importance on knowing the exact BC of their bullets, and shooting bullets with high BC’s. 75" high. 476,618. Posted in. It isn’t a stand-alone device, but more like an additional/larger display for your Kestrel weather meter. Apr 17, 2017 · Ballistic Calculators & Field Results. (with boat tail pills. Ballistic can compensate for atmospheric conditions such as temperature Here at Applied Ballistics we test over long range, so you can be sure the BC we provide is accurate. April 15th, 2016 by team. My rifle at 400 needs 5 moa of adjustment. If you have an accurate velocity that will usually put you spot on. Package 1 This is our basic package we will shoot factory or your hand loads from 100-800yards. Pretty straightforward, regardless of experience level. May 8, 2013 · Per the shooting chrony I had 2780 fps inputed into Ballistic AE for the 300 gr SMK, and dialed for the 200 and 300 yards zero. No more DOPE cards, re-zeroing, or guessing at the wind. Follow the directions in the Kestrel LiNK or Applied Ballistics Profile Loader program to confirm the connection and perform program actions. . 1 MIL. This app is using temperature, altitude, humidity, atmospheric pressure, distance to target, target speed and direction, coriolis effect, slope angle, cant We have seen a lot of muzzle velocity errors even with well chronographed MVs. Even then, we weren’t inclined to celebrate anything. Press the center button and begin rotating the Kestrel in either direction at a constant speed, counting to between 8-10 seconds per rotation. 3 moa correction. But let's say you want too apply those same principles and ring steel at distance with your rimfire rifle. 23] BC Testing. Truing bends the algorithm to perfectly match the bullet’s flight path. com. The little things matter, a lot. On your Kestrel in the main Options menu, scroll to and select Data Port and set to On. 01. The Elite will provide solutions out to 5500 yds, but the longest confirmed Kill shot I have heard of was 3871 yds and no mention of a Kestrel. Oct 3, 2021 · For the SK Long Range Match Ammunition, the ballistics data calculator indicated that 19. Install one AA batteries and turn unit on. Sync Device Connect Revic Optics smart devices to upload Ballistic Profiles. Understanding Ballistics Solvers: Ballistics solvers are sophisticated software programs that utilize mathematical models and atmospheric data to predict the trajectory of a bullet. [Horus manual p. Kestrel HUD with Wired Remote: $490. Update Ballistic Profiles with calculated Truing Data. a. Your firing solution depends on the ballistic coefficient. - Live View of PMR HUD Feb 1, 2020 · Its a mathematical equation (minus Byan Litz' stuff, he actually tests the BCs). For example, the ballistic solver expects different muzzle velocities depending on if you are using the G1 or Ballistic is the definitive ballistics trajectory calculator for iOS devices, intended for serious shooters who want a serious (and seriously accurate application). Ballistic calculates trajectory, windage, velocity, energy, lead, and bullet flight time for any valid range. Hornady allows you to use these bullet-specific drag profiles for FREE in the Hornady Ballistics app, which is available on iOS and Android devices. Zeroed at 200 and a 400 target the calculator shows a 4. The bullet data sheets provide: dimensioned drawings and geometric information, drag and velocity specific BC measurements, and a stability map for a variety of barrel twists and atmospheric conditions. May 22, 2024 · • Muzzle Velocity Truing • Coriolis effect auto-calculated with position and latitude The GeoBallistics mobile app is powered by the BallisticsARC (Ballistics, Atmospherics, and Range Card) solver, and combines the functionality of a ballistics calculator, an atmospheric device, and a GPS rangefinder into one application. Rotate at least three times, or until the screen says “Cal Complete”. Rather than using actual firing data, we chose to use a perfect G7 bullet and the downrange values predicted by Ballistic Explorer. 5 Creedmoor Load Development. V. a. k. 00. The Kestrel Shooter's Weather Meter with Applied Ballistics Technology measures up to 15 environmental parameters and allows users to select from either G1 or G7 ballistic coefficients (BC) when calculating a trajectory at the range. This is where the main purpose of the weapon comes into play. At the bottom of the display is the digital level that will indicate cant. Jun 9, 2019 · Ballistic Coefficient can change as velocity changes. 300 PRC’s case about the same length as a . Find load data for your cartridge. When science is applied in the real world, especially in a field environment, compromises are a necessary evil; perfect data just isn't available. Aug 25, 2023 · Aug 26, 2023. People regularly shoot match-grade . Developed for professional shooters who demand a robust and accurate fire solution under any circumstances. Jul 7, 2018 · 7mm mag 24". Now we finish this series with an overview of The Process and Truing Your Ballistic Coefficient for Rimfire Ammunition below. Sync data among shoot/hunting teams across devices. At both ranges I was . com/blog/all-about-muzzle-velocity/Truing your muzzle velocity is necessary if you want accurate adjustments and d Bryan and Francis continue discussing the components of the truing process. 613 BC. By default, we only need four values to give you a good idea of how your shot will behave: target range, bullet weight, muzzle velocity, and ballistic On this page you will find recommended products based on that testing, and short descriptions of them. 's at extreme velocity and distance. Aug 8, 2021 · The . Using a Labradar and Shot Marker to help you bulid your gun profile for your kestrel or ballistic app. These functions are actually accessible from the live rangefinding screen and only work with ranges you have just taken, live. Apr 15, 2016 · Truing Tool. New reloading data must be opened as a PDF document in an up-to-date compatible PDF viewer. Use a chronograph to find a good initial value to enter for your MV. Here’s the data from that testing: Overall, these bullets tested as well or better in the lab compared to other bullets I’ve tested! 6. 1. I'd say just pick some 22 subsonic ammo out of the database, chronograph it out of your rifle, measure your elevations at say 50, 100, 200 and Jun 4, 2024 · The Hide Armory. 3 Example with Truing tool. We closed the day with truing up our DOPE with our Kestrel Weather Meters. All Things Rimfire. Subscribe for more ballistics content: https://www. Oct 19, 2020 · 40,595. The Kestrel 5700 Ballistics Weather Meter measures wind, altitude, and all critical weather and ballistic variables to calculate an accurate aim point for long-range shooting. APPLIED BALLISTICS® PRECISION DATA BOOK Amazon. Then by however much it is off, you can use that to help make your formula more accurate for your specific rifle/load. Practical Ballistics By: Bryan Litz Introduction External ballistics is the science of bullet flight, and is part of the diverse skill set required to hit targets at long range. Accuracy 1st Whiz Wheel. Frank highlighted four key distances that aid in validating the “Target” portion of the WTF approach to long range marksmanship. with Wayne Dayberry There's plenty of data on the inter webs to get you on target at distance with most popular long-range centerfire cartridges. The Mk18 data indicates a weapon system which would benefit much more from the first truing method, that is, ballistic program truing. « Using Rangefinder. 162gr. With the AB program, I've ALWAYS needed truing. Apr 30, 2024 · Gravity Ballistics: Truing DOPE with your Ballistic Calculator. May 21, 2024 · • Muzzle Velocity Truing • Coriolis effect auto-calculated with position and latitude The GeoBallistics mobile app is powered by the BallisticsARC (Ballistics, Atmospherics, and Range Card) solver, and combines the functionality of a ballistics calculator, an atmospheric device, and a GPS rangefinder into one application. $449. shows customizable ballistic data including dialed elevation distance conveyed in Yards, Meters, or MOA, rifle cant, range compensated wind value, and optic battery level in real time. Done correctly, truing your solver Dec 23, 2023 · The M4 data indicates a weapon which would benefit greatly from the second truing method, that is, field expedient truing. Sync data among shooting/hunting teams across devices. 94 scope height. We have seen a lot of muzzle velocity errors even with well chronographed MVs. For 40grain 22lr rimfire ammunition, I Mar 5, 2019 · Our first day on the range was spent zeroing and truing ballistic computers. The information provided in the bullet data sheets is the result of independent testing by Applied Ballistics. Add to Cart. Oehler’s Ballistic Explorer and Extended Range Truing are included. By: Bryan Litz. By the end of day one, we were ringing steel past 600 yards. 30-06 or . Insert the USB Data Transfer Cable into a USB port and plug into the Data Transfer Port on the back of the Kestrel unit. If available, select the AB Custom Drag Models from the bullet library in your KLB app. Factory default for most apps is 1. C. Typically, elevation holds are verified by shooting groups at every 100 yards out to 1,000 yards or more. bullets. In Map Mode, establish shooting position by dropping a shooter pin. ballistic calibration) is one of the most fundamental skills required to make precise, accurate shots at increasingly longer ranges. $749. 00" especially if using a rail and 50mm objective scope. It involves taking 2 or 3 real flight data points (finding bullet drop at 2 or 3 places along its flight) and feeding it into the calculation parameters. It is the best time to start brushing up on your wind calls and May 5, 2021 · PLEASE READ THIS https://kestrelballistics. The Process 1. Today I fire formed two boxes of 7MM STW using 130 grain G. 5 and the G7 used the Stream line Body of almost 0. com or by phone at 800-574-9200. Additionally, 4DOF™ is the first publicly available program that Dec 23, 2005 · Well, boys, out there in . One box was wrapped in a couple of towels and put Ruger Kestrel 5700 Ballistics Weather Meter with LiNK Add to Compare. And yes you may have a labradar but you need to TRUE the data. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Know where your bullet will hit before you pull the trigger. 476,462. May 21, 2024 · Calculate Muzzle Velocity and Ballistic Coefficients based on truing data at 2 known distances. Once these values are place into the BC equation G1 is 2x G7. Failure to obtain precise zero. But rather, a question for people that are using AB or 4DOF software, ideally loaded onto Kestrel 5700’s, shooting bullets found in the CDM library. I will also be doing a video showing the process on how to actuall In this two part episode, Bryan and Francis cover the components of the truing process to help identify their importance in creating the most effective solutions for your ballistic solver. I received my Kestrel back in the Winter and as most things go with electronics the firmware needed an update before Spring. Truing your muzzle velocity is an important step for achieving shooting accuracy, though I often hear shooters say that they skip it. Get the world's most complete ballistics calculator -- a rugged Kestrel Weather Meter with the "science of accuracy" built-in! Get accurate measurement of wind and air density to deliver elevation and windage solutions for unprecedented accuracy on extended long-range Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. 396 or when using fps it adjusted to 2756. First the rambling. Forum Statistics. A horizontal line in the center means the scope is level. For example, the ballistic solver expects different muzzle velocities depending on if you are using the G1 or The free app utilizes the Hornady 4DOF™ (4 Degrees of Freedom) Ballistic Calculator, which provides trajectory solutions based on projectile drag coefficient (not ballistic coefficient) along with exact physical modeling of the projectile, its mass and aerodynamic properties. Comments Off. Calibrate the compass. Kestrel Elite 5700 Applied Ballistics Meter (Best seller) See prices in the dropdown: $599 or $699 w/ LINK. 5" and more often than not it is closer to 1. Changes in air density during the bullet’s flight can become important if long range high angle shooting is conducted. The handy, portable meter also offers the “Litz” measured BC library of well over 200 bullets and growing Kestrel 2700 Platform Kestrel 5700 Platform Kestrel 5700 Elite Platform Kestrel 2700 Kestrel 5700 Ruger Kestrel 5700 Jan 6, 2020 · Kestrel HUD Base Model (no remote): $400. 300 PRC’s long head height enables handloaders to seat long, sleek bullets way out. Why do we need to True? You have a good chronograph know your BC and have a good muzzle veloc Oct 5, 2015 · It’s not a question of whether or not ballistic solvers need to be trued, or how to do it. This is understandable because most are working the problem backward. Improve Your Long Range Shooting ». 11. Note the G1 uses the Drag Coefficient of . Length was measured (base to tip) for each of the 20 bullets as well. supersonic rounds. 2940 fps (verified) 1. Base of the Rockies. Keep in mind, to connect to your iPhone or Android, you need the LiNK (Bluetooth) model. after effect. You can just go out and shoot a group at 500 yards, take it as gold, and input it in as a ballistic calibration. As far as truing ballistic formulas, I've never heard the term used, but I think they mean setting up the conditions for a specific shot and seeing if your ballistic formula matches your actual results. The ballistic calculator will provide all the variables of your shot at a provided range. , but they spec’d the cartridge for full-magnum-length actions. ) 14. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. #1. Apr 19, 2021 · Length Data. Two boxes of ammo were taken from the safe. Follow the steps below when truing a 22LR profile. Don't true BC before. This is the time of the year when shooters start getting the itch. Not only the best tool for the LR community but a great learning tool. In Chart Mode and Comp Mode, establish shooting position by populating the GPS coordinates in the Location data field. Feb 22, 2024 · Yes, this is common. 476,742. S. Change in velocity due to powder temp. I spend hours testing my theories and learning more all the time Sep 2, 2022 · You will note that there is no section in the ballistic profile screen for truing muzzle velocity to field data or adding a drop scale factor for supersonic to subsonic transition. Jul 24, 2019 · All About Muzzle Velocity. What do you prefer to use for ballistic data solutions? old school paper char It is very important to understand that a lot of the BC truing that is described on YouTube is done by the ELR guys and not someone that is only shooting ordinary medium-range. com: Applied Ballistics For Long-Range Shooting 3rd Applied Ballistics For Long Range Shooting 3rd Edition Applied Ballistics For Long Range Shooting 3rd Edition Accuracy & Precision Defined - Long-range Shooting - Applied Ballistics Equipment Advice For Long-Range Shooters | Applied Kestrel 5700X Weather Meter with Applied Ballistics (NEW) DROP D2 Wireless Temperature & Humidity Data Logger; Subsonic Range Truing (Drop Scale Factor) The Process- With Wayne Dayberry We've covered the Quick Start and Filling in the Data Gaps in previous emails. - Sync Device Connect Revic Optics smart devices to upload Ballistic Profiles. For assistance, contact customerservice@barnesbullets. 5mm A-Tip Bullets Occasionally, external factors, such as powder temperature, can impact the actual muzzle velocity of your loads, causing a need to refactor your existing cal 1. It helps shooters calculate hold overs, and scope settings necessary for long range shots. 284 diameter. "The Kestrel Elite is the absolute best tool for long range shooting since the inception of wanting to reach further. May 16, 2019 · Todd Hodnett from Accuracy 1st discusses the importance of truing with a Kestrel Ballistics Meter. Jun 17, 2009 · Variations in rifle hold, rear bag placement, recoil control, cheek weld etc between different field shooting positions. This process is called “Truing Drop”, or simply “Truing”. The components used for load data were the following: Hornady 153 grain 6. The Accuracy 1st Whiz Wheel provides a fully custom ballistic solution, accurate to 0. snipershide. Ballistic’s Truing Tool is designed for the shooter using trusted and proven data to automatically calculate minor changes impacting actual muzzle velocity. www. Truing is a process to quickly and easily determine accurate This is a smart ballistic calculator for long range shooters. Build a gun profile for your 22LR rifle and ammunition. Done correctly, truing your solver will help you May 16, 2019 · Ballistic Calculators & Field Results. Truing your ballistic solution (a. Jan 24, 2018 · Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. OVERVIEW. I've found that the ones who tend to skip that step, are also, frequently, the same shooters that then talk about missing the mark at long range shots. Specifically, what percentage of Muzzle Velocity correction is required to true AB. These programs let you translate the data measured with your gun/load into accurate trajectory predictions. A drag curve doesn’t change; the curve is specific to each projectile and is directly related to its trajectory. As one Jun 1, 2018 · The “elite” part of the Kestrel 5700 Elite comes from the integration of an Applied Ballistics solver that’s fed current weather data from the meter so that the ballistics are as accurate as possible. The Ruger Kestrel 5700 Ballistics Weather Meter comes with a library of pre-measured Ruger rifles and commonly available match-grade ammunition accessible in the app, allowing you to simply select your Ruger rifle and cartridge, then start making first-round hits on long-range targets! The Ruger 5700 Ballistics Weather Meter works with your factory Ruger rifle to give you the confidence to Advanced Marksmanship Unit. If you ever have any questions on trueing data, ballistics calculators, or anything else pertaining to long range shooting, feel free to give us a call at 970-241-1807 and we will help you out! - Jaden Miller. When I put this into the truing feature in the software it changes the velocity to 2880 fps. Sep 4, 2020 · Originally Posted by stomp442. Ballistic's Truing Tool is designed for the shooter using Mar 6, 2020 · I am oldschool myself and leave the ballistic calculators as soon as I've extracted the data I need. You can manipulate any variable on the fly, and solutions will respond immediately. Ballistic Calculators & Field Results. Typically it’s recommended to change velocity first to true out to say 500 yds and then fine tune bc with yardages out at 800-1000. This is one of a series of articles to help This video will walk you through how to use the Truing feature on the FREE Horus Ballistic app. The Hornady 4 DOF creates an internal altitude based atmospheric table of conditions based on the provided inputs and accounts for the air density changes at the projectile’s altitude during flight. #7. Mar 17, 2023 · Truing. Use G7 BC values whenever possible and make sure your sight height is correct. shooting long range to calibrate the bullet drop on my Kestrel weather meter with Applied Ballistics software. 2. Works with large caliber and airguns. 467,465. Bullets don't lie. This is a short image of how the BC is derived from a bullet's physical Geometry. One of the downsides to using a ballistic calculator is the before vs. 8-2. May 29, 2023 · In this article, we will explore the importance of truing your ballistics solver at a distance to maximize accuracy when engaging small targets. Mag. 300 Win. How much the compromise Nov 28, 2021 · Truing out your muzzle velocity. The Extended Range Truing program expects the atmospheric data from the test along with the recorded muzzle velocity, distance to target and TOF. Install battery and turn unit on. After trueing the calculator it changed the BC to . Using G1 B. Take a look at how ballistic coefficient changes downrange using for example the Sierra Bullets data. Mar 25, 2020 · Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Custom H. Jul 3, 2021 · This app is using temperature, altitude, humidity, atmospheric pressure, distance to target, target speed and direction, coriolis effect, slope angle, cant and your rifle configuration for • Muzzle Velocity Truing • Coriolis effect auto-calculated with position and latitude The GeoBallistics mobile app is powered by the BallisticsARC (Ballistics, Atmospherics, and Range Card) solver, and combines the functionality of a ballistics calculator, an atmospheric device, and a GPS rangefinder into one application. They identify the key variables in creating the most effective solutions for your ballistic solver. However, what we observed was quite different. From truing data, setting up kestrels, and even load development. Before doing this I’d double check all of your inputs to make sure they are correct before truing if you think it’s too far off to start with. A user can calibrate the program based on real world observed drop data at range by inputting pairs of observed range/drop data, and the program will calibrate itself to your data point by modifying either: muzzle velocity, drag, or simply by scaling the computed drop. The Kestrel HUD is compatible with Kestrel 5 Series Ballistics Meters, like the Kestrel 5700 Elite with Applied Ballistics. To use the calculator, simply fill in the input values (blank white boxes) in the large black box. Oct 18, 2020. All serious long range shooters are aware that bullets have a ballistic coefficient, and that it’s somehow related to how much the bullet will drop and drift in the wind. This is a common situation, and that’s why I recommend confirming your data by shooting multiple distances and “truing” your ballistics calculator. We need an estimated ballistic coefficient as a starting point to enter in your ballistic solver. fj iy nf oe oo sq rw nc ko vi